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Technical requests

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Uncontroversial technical requests

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@Northern Moonlight is there any restrictions you faced when moving the article back? – robertsky (talk) 07:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ugh, there isn’t. Thanks for the reminder. Northern Moonlight 08:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contested technical requests

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  • MRT Line 5 (Dhaka Metro Rail) (currently a redirect to MRT Line 5) → MRT Line 5 (move · discuss) – since there is another mrt line 5 there is no need for the clarificaion of the transit system Uss157 (talk) 04:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is a case similar to UK parliamentary constituencies where I think a disaambuator may be good for consistency and clarity even if its not strictly necessary in this case. The manila metro also has MRT lines, so saying which each one is aids recognition.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Navajo Wars → Navajo wars (currently a redirect back to Navajo Wars) (move · discuss) – Per WP:AT and MOS:CAPS - not consistently capped in sources per JSTOR and google scholar. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As with the Apache wars below, the capped form is heavily favoured in sources.[1] And forget Google Scholar we don't use that in such discussions.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apache Wars → Apache wars (currently a redirect back to Apache Wars) (move · discuss) – Per WP:AT and MOS:CAPS - not consistently capped in sources per JSTOR and google scholar. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This one isn't necessarily clear cut. Unusually, Sources have been trending away from the lowercase version recently, and it's probably about on the border of whether it's "consistently capitalised in a siginifacnt majority of sources" at present.[2] Also, we never use Google scholar for assessing titles, we're a general encyclopedia not a specialist organ.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:03, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps you never use Google Scholar in RMs. Books are not the only reliable independent sources. SilverLocust 💬 08:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, they're not the only ones, but in assessing common name, you need an objective sampling of the literature as a whole. Books gives you a reasonable guesstimate at that, while scholar results, which are very narrow, tell you nothing. Hence they're not used at RMs, while ngrams are.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Arguing that people shouldn't use Google Scholar doesn't support the claim that "we never" use scholar. Google Ngrams is used much more often, but JSTOR and Google Scholar are two things that people sometimes look at in RMs in order to consider usage in journals (though you may prefer otherwise). "Discussions about article titles commonly look at additional off-site sourcing, such as frequency of usage in news publications, books, and journals." WP:AT. SilverLocust 💬 07:59, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mainland Travel Permit for Hong Kong and Macao Residents → Mainland Travel Permit for Hong Kong and Macau Residents (currently a redirect back to Mainland Travel Permit for Hong Kong and Macao Residents) (move · discuss) – Articles relating to Macau/Macao have been extremely confusingly titled on Wikipedia, most (non-company) articles makes more sense with the "Macau" spelling because that is simply the more common English language name (and is on >50% of Wikipedia articles anyway) so I believe this article is no exception and it fits better being renamed to Macau rather than its current title of Macao Josethewikier (talk) 09:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The fact that there is a mixture of spelling on Wikipedia is evidence that there is disagreement about it, which is evident in prior RMs and Talk page discussions for Macau. Ngram analysis disagrees with your assertion that "Macau" is the more popular spelling in English. The desire to improve consistency, while a laudable goal, does not seem completely uncontroversial. Apparently the official government spelling in English is "Macao", and this article is about a document issued by the government, so perhaps its title should retain the government's official spelling.
    A similar document with an associated article recently moved by the nominator is shown here, and the name of the document is written in English on its cover, and clearly uses the government official spelling, so an article about the document should probably not casually differ from the title of the document itself.
    The nominator has been making a lot of bold moves and spelling changes – sometimes with misleading edit summaries. For example, they renamed an article and changed the spelling in the article about a Canadian government office in a way that is contrary to the way the Canadian government spells the name of its own office in English!
    —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yakuza (franchise) → Like a Dragon (franchise) (currently a redirect back to Yakuza (franchise)) (move · discuss) – The current name Thatonebowserfan (talk) 20:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not uncontroversial, see this failed RM attempting the same move ASUKITE 20:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Thatonebowserfan; this technical request has been contested and thus requires a formal Requested Move discussion. You can start one by clicking "discuss" in your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). Sennecaster (Chat) 14:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Shake Your Moneymaker (song) → Shake Your Moneymaker (move · discuss) – Per WP:SMALLDIFFS, as this is the only item at the dab page without a space between "Money" and "Maker" Mach61 20:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Neutral on this, but the above reason better justifies moving the dab to Shake Your Money Maker [than moving the song to the base page name]. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rotideypoc41352 even if the dab were moved the song should still be moved over the redirect to the dab. Mach61 22:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per Shake Your Moneymaker (song), the song has been released as both "Shake Your Moneymaker" and "Shake Your Money Maker". Insufficient disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 22:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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