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Will the new RfA reform come to the rescue of administrators?: We don't know yet, but there is some encouraging news, nevertheless.

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Will the new RfA reform come to the rescue of administrators?

By Oltrepier

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Administrators play an important role in helping preserve Wikipedia's ecosystem every day, since their advanced rights allow them to perform several different special actions, such as blocking and unblocking registered or IP users from editing, protect or delete pages (and vice versa), edit fully protected pages, and have the final say in various kinds of discussions.

However, admins have become an increasingly endangered species throughout the years — according to the official stats, the number of active administrators has been in sharp decline ever since 2008, to the point it shrank below 2005 levels in October 2023 and has kept hitting new record lows in recent weeks. Adding insult to injury, last year a study shared on The Signpost by user WereSpielChequers revealed that the admin pool reflected an ever-growing Wikigeneration gap, since the vast majority of active admins at that point had started editing between 2003 and 2006.

The same demographic decline is reflected in the list of successful requests for adminship, which have also been dropping steadily since 2008, recording its worst ever outcome in 2021 (with only seven successful RfAs) and currently standing at just four promotions over the course of this year. RfAs are the community-driven process through which new admins are elected, but many editors agree that this system has glaring flaws that contributed to the admin pool's reduction, for example, by alienating many aspiring candidates. Among them, there's user theleekycauldron, who said in her bio:

As it currently stands, the process is hostile to candidates, hostile to participants, and fairly inefficient in its use of participant time and energy. There are lots of things we can do about that – and there are many, many reforms that I find myself in favor of – but we do actually have to be willing to try new things and work together towards a solution.

As proved by the very existence of a dedicated Signpost series, several attempts to overhaul the RfA process have been made throughout the years, namely in 2013, 2015 and 2021, but usually ended up bringing marginal changes. Back in March, though, theleekycauldron and other users – including the likes of HouseBlaster, Isaacl, SchroCat, and Soni – decided to open and coordinate a new review in the hope of finding fresh ideas to improve RfA as a whole, either on a temporary or an enduring basis. A total amount of 32 proposals, plus add-ons, were submitted during Phase I; ten of these main/side proposals have now advanced to Phase II, where they will be subject to further workshopping or follow-up.

Here’s a recap of all the proposals that proved to be successful:

• Proposal 14 (Suffrage requirements, initiated by Kusma) and Proposal 25 (Require nominees to be extended confirmed, initiated by Femke) have been approved and implemented immediately: starting from the next RfA, only extended-confirmed users will be allowed to run for the admin role and/or join the voting sessions.
• Proposal 3b (Make the first two days discussion-only, initiated by Usedtobecool) has been approved and will enter a testing phase: for the RfAs opened in the next six months, the first two days since each submission will be centered around general discussion and optional questions only, whereas voting will take place from the third day onwards.
• Ditto for Proposal 13 (Admin elections, initiated by Novem Linguae): an experimental election cycle will run parallel with the standard RfA process – as candidates will be able to choose to follow the procedure they prefer – and will be reviewed after a single cycle by the community in Phase II.
• Proposal 2 (Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA, initiated by HouseBlaster) and Proposal 9b (Require links for claims of specific policy violations, initiated by Reaper Eternal) have been approved and merged together; the same goes for Proposal 16 (Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs, initiated by Thebiguglyalien) and its 16c variant (Community recall process based on dewiki, initiated by Soni), which have both just entered the specific questions phase, following the end of open discussion.

Together with Proposal 17 (Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions, initiated by SchroCat) and Proposal 24 (Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process, initiated by SportingFlyer), these proposals are currently being refined as part of Phase II discussions.

Upon being contacted by The Signpost to share her thoughts on the outcome of Phase I, theleekycauldron stated that the support for new proposals was "incredible", writing:

[We have reached] community consensus for admin elections and admin recall – and culturally, I think we're seeing the zeitgeist renew the mandate of admins and 'crats to actually do something about RfA in a meaningful way. The 2015 and 2021 reviews both walked away from their initial proposal phases basically empty-handed – not this time. I think really positive changes are going to come, and they're happening without much of a fight.

She also felt confident about how Phase II discussions might turn out, while adding that:

The community needs to stay vigilant to make sure that we actually deliver on the promises we made ourselves in Phase I. If the moderates willing to try something go away, we're gonna get bogged down in implementation questions and wind up with "consensus in abstract, no consensus in practice". This happened to admin recall once before, and I'm looking to not repeat that mistake. We're in open discussion right now, and that'll inform how we move to the concrete final questions before these proposals roll out.

Finally, she said she feels "cautiously optimistic" about the likelihood of revitalizing the active admin pool, even partially, through a reformed RfA process:

What I am sure of is that we're walking away with an RfA that I hope will be more civil and more encouraging. If we need to start cranking up numbers – say, by lowering the admin elections threshold when we get to that phase II discussion – I'm game.

As for theleekycauldron's comments, while predicting the tangible impact this reform will have on the RfA process and the active admin pool as a whole still feels like a long shot at the moment, the early signs look promising enough.

And we might not even have to whisper it quietly this time...

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• you can change the process. you can't change culture. ltbdl (talk) 13:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

  Um, yes, even major cultures can be changed. I recall when drink-driving was the norm in the UK, for instance; I heard car crashes every Friday or Saturday night as drunken drivers lost control and hit a wall or a lamp-post, on an empty road. Now, people arrange to get home by other means if they intend to go out and drink. So a culture embedded for decades among millions of people can be shifted, with patience and persuasion. We'll get it done here too, slowly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

• Has there been any comparisons of this issue with other large Wikipedias? I notice on a brief look that German and French Wikipedia admin numbers are similarly falling over time. While RfA process changes are certainly worthwhile, I'm not 100% sure that even a great process alone will halt the issue completely. SFB 22:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
  • @Sillyfolkboy: Nothing I'm aware of, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong! And yes, obviously the RfA process is only one of the many reasons why the admin pool has kept shrinking, as the overall number of editors has done (except during the pandemic years, maybe), but hey, at least this reform might be useful to stabilize and solidify a core of dedicated users. Oltrepier (talk) 08:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-10-22/Special report, a report from 2012 by @Jan eissfeldt:. It discussed admin reforms (specifically recall) from the German Wikipedia from 2009, and how they affected adminship in the next 3 years. Soni (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
    • @Soni: Nice, thank you for sharing this, and for your work on the current reform process! Oltrepier (talk) 13:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
• The short answer to the question posed by this special report is No. The proposal to make the first two days discussion-only has not proved to be successful. Actually, it's just taken a single RfA to prove it to be a disaster. – wbm1058 (talk) 10:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
  • With due respect, ToadetteEdit knew they weren't going to pass RFA before they self-nominated. I'd say we didn't learn very much, except that when an unqualified candidate shows up, they'll likely be dealt with roughly. IMHO, this wasn't a reasonable test of the change because this candidate wouldn't have passed under any RFA regime, and even knew it beforehand. Technically, an outcome which 1) taught the community a valuable and unexpected lesson, and 2) didn't advance a poor candidate, is a win for those of us willing to try something different. No harm and it will never happen again. Those are wins. BusterD (talk) 00:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
• Editor's note: I just wanted to thank theleekycauldron once again for agreeing to a "mini-interview" and for the work she's doing, together with other people! Oltrepier (talk) 07:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

  Likewise, thanks :) appreciated your reaching out! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

• Nothing changes. It’s a nice effort, and nice coverage, all leading to zero sum. The community is beholden to the broken process, it can’t be change, altered, reorganized, or otherwise fixed. 2600:1011:B188:718D:5C7:E042:B7D6:2426 (talk) 22:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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