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When to remove the Orphan Template

I have expanded an article to un-orphan another article. Does one connection suffice to remove the orphan warning template at the top, or should more be established? The previously orphaned article in question is SAP Anywhere ElizabethIsAlive (talk) 10:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

You can remove it if there is at least one link. By the way, you should probably add a citation to the addition you made to the other page just so the section and link don't get removed. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 11:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@ElizabethIsAlive - "Once it has an incoming link from at least one article or list, the orphan tag can be removed (disambiguation pages, redirects and draft articles do not count)." Quoted from banner on one the monthly backlog categories. More info at Wikipedia:Orphan. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 18:02, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

But WP:ORPHAN also states: More colloquially, editors also sometimes use "orphan" to refer to pages that do not have as many incoming links as they ought to, even if they do not meet the technical definition for orphan status. The Banner talk 19:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

That's true, but it basically means one link needed, though Mrfoogles (talk) 20:35, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

It is clearly stated in bold in WP:Orphan: "only place the tag if the article has zero incoming links from other articles". --Oloddin (talk) 03:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

^_@ 176.113.115.186 (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Remove shudra sentences from devanga Wikipedia

Hello

please find reliable source in the below link no where it is mentioned that we are shudra

see and change it

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/55104710/Haridarshan_Pooja_2021_The_influence_of_the_childhood_experiences_of_women_in_Bangalore_India_upon_their_aspirations_for_their_children_socio-cultural_and_academic_perspectives_A_community_based_study.pdf

Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

This page is for questions on how to edit Wikipedia. The place to propose improvements to an article is the talk page of that article, in this case Talk:Devanga. Please provide a reliable source for your proposal. The fact that some source does not assert something is irrelevant. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello

please find reliable source in the below link no where it is mentioned that we are shudra

see and change it

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/55104710/Haridarshan_Pooja_2021_The_influence_of_the_childhood_experiences_of_women_in_Bangalore_India_upon_their_aspirations_for_their_children_socio-cultural_and_academic_perspectives_A_community_based_study.pdf

Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Stop adding this everywhere. Please. You did this to my talk page already. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 09:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

When it will get updated?? ??

How long time it will take!? Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:44, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Harishsk2022 You have made edit requests at Talk:Devanga which have all been denied. Asking the same here at Teahouse has no purpose. Please stop. David notMD (talk) 09:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't want to edit you just remove that word shudra from the devanga Wikipedia page

Hello

please find reliable source in the below link no where it is mentioned that we are shudra

see and change it

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/55104710/Haridarshan_Pooja_2021_The_influence_of_the_childhood_experiences_of_women_in_Bangalore_India_upon_their_aspirations_for_their_children_socio-cultural_and_academic_perspectives_A_community_based_study.pdf

Harishsk2022 (talk) 09:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

At WP:ANI there is now a recommendation that User:Harishsk2022 be indefinitely blocked. David notMD (talk) 10:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I have blocked them for one week for "disruptive editing" and have left an explanatory message on their talk page so they understand why their constant demands everywhere to make an edit they want has proven disruptive to everyone else. Hopefully, they will not try the same tactic again once the block expires, or it may become permanent. Competence is required. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

UPDATE: Now blocked for a further week for continuing their disruptive tactic on their talk page! Nick Moyes (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

As a heads up, they came onto #wikipedia-en-help on IRC and demanded we unblock them and "address [their] concern". —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Source assessment notes} 02:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

a question

hey guys - does anyone remember the videos called strawberry shortcake sets the school on fire and charlie brown gets a gold card? they've become lost media and i'm trying to hunt them down at this point 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:9982:222D:A1B5:AD5 (talk) 21:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP! And welcome to the Teahouse, though your question does not reflect Wikipedia. You could try other sources though! Neko Lexi (talk) 14:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

thank you 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:3C9F:A882:2CE4:B4F1 (talk) 21:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Np. Glad I could help Neko Lexi (talk) 22:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Entertainment#a_question_to_some_people

i got no responses here - any ideas? 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:6C46:BBB:D875:B623 (talk) 22:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

It looks like anyone has not got to you yet. Be patient and someone will get to you eventually, sometimes it just takes a while because other people are busy and might not respond in a few minutes. I always go do something else while I'm waiting for a response. Maybe try that Neko Lexi (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

what other things is there so i can ask? i'll be patient 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:252F:94D5:1624:8FB9 (talk) 22:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

it looks like someone got to you, check your question Neko Lexi (talk) 00:13, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

wait my time is wrong, April 20th is tomarrow Neko Lexi (talk) 00:14, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• tomorrow* spelling error Neko Lexi (talk) 00:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

i'll check 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:6961:A248:89BD:3C83 (talk) 21:39, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

How do I go about removing "This article's lead section may be too short to adequately summarize the key points...."

Hello,

Several years ago I created the wikipedia page on Joseph A. Tunzi. How do I go about removing the "This article's lead section may be too short to adequately summarize the key points. Please consider expanding the lead to provide an accessible overview of all important aspects of the article. (March 2024)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_A._Tunzi Daryl77 (talk) 14:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Daryl77 The lead (all the text before the first section heading) is five paragraphs and one sentence long. That is quite a long lead. This makes me wonder if @TDKR Chicago 101 in fact meant to add the Template:Lead_too_long template instead but added the short one by mistake. Qcne (talk) 15:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, yes I meant to add the lead too long template. As you can see, the lead is quite long. My mistake. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

I've updated the page to limit the lead to four paragraphs. Daryl77 (talk) 02:10, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@TDKR Chicago 101 I've updated the page to limit the lead to four paragraphs. Daryl77 (talk) 18:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Qcne I've updated the page to limit the lead to four paragraphs. Could you please remove the "This article's lead section may be too long. Please read the length guidelines and help move details into the article's body. (April 2024)" at the top of the page.

Here's a link to the page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_A._Tunzi Daryl77 (talk) 19:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Daryl77, you can remove it yourself if you think you've satisfied the concern. -- asilvering (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Show a tag next to the username whether a Wikipedia user is an administrator

What is a Wikipedia script or gadget to show whether a Wikipedia user is an administrator next to the username? The administrator status is displayed automatically without any script on Russian Wikipedia by appending character A in parenthesis after the user name.

For example, see [1]: in this example, the user Victoria (A) is an administrator (there is (A) after the username Victoria), whereas the user Lumaca is not an administrator (no (A) after the username Lumaca).

How to achieve the same in English Wikipedia? There is a gadget on English Wikipedia to strike out usernames that have been blocked, but not a gadget to show administrators. Please help. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 10:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Maxim Masiutin Welcome to the Teahouse. To be honest, I couldn't see the difference in the example you linked to.

But here on en.wiki there are a number of user scripts available to achieve what you want. Checking my commons.js file, I see that I have long been using User:Amalthea/userhighlighter.js, which renders admin signatures in a nice, obvious cyan colour. A quick check of that script description suggests there might be a better script at User:Theopolisme/Scripts/adminhighlighter.js, although I've never tried that one.

I also like seeing blocked usernames with a strike-through, but this, as you say, is a setting you can opt in for in Preferences>Gadgets>Appearance.

There are innumerable other userscripts available for a wide range of tasks. You can find them all by following links at Wikipedia:User scripts. I hope this gives you what you want. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for referring the "User:Theopolisme/Scripts/adminhighlighter.js", I will use it and give my feedback. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 14:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Upon your advice, I used the script User:Amalthea/userhighlighter.js for a few hours and was very happy with it. This was exactly what I wanted. Although it used background colour rather than the "(A)" prefix, it served my purpose anyway. Than you, you've made my day! Maxim Masiutin (talk) 18:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Maxim Masiutin Very pleased to have been of help! Nick Moyes (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia Layout

why did you change the layout of information? In particular the dates lide/death, places etc of said individual...its too hard to read..bring back the old layout. 2604:2D80:D48A:300:C5C1:3692:D618:530F (talk) 16:27, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. This sounds like it is specific to one article in particular, so any concerns should be brought to that article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

The poster is using the mobile version and describing an infobox so I guess it's the issue at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Infobox television and phab:T362747. It wasn't intentional and there is work to fix it. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

question

how do I fix my "Draft:Meiko Mochizuki" Page? - From, AikoWatahi-Kun (talk) 17:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@AikoWatahi-Kun: Welcome to the Teahouse. For one, your draft doesn't have any inline citations whatsoever, which are required to establish the subject's wikinotability. Some of the external links you've put down lead to sites with user-generated content, which will not help in that aspect. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

thanks for the advice. AikoWatahi-Kun (talk) 23:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:BLP violation

I want to add this to the Rahul Gandhi article:

Rahul Gandhi has threatened that the whole of India will be on fire if the BJP wins the 2024 parliamentary elections and changes the Constitution, during an address at Delhi's Ramlila Maidan.

Will it be a WP:BLP violation?-Haani40 (talk) 19:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Haani40 (talk) 19:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

BLP violation or not, I wouldn't advise adding that to an article because the meaning is unclear. If he used the words "the whole of India will be on fire" then perhaps they could be reported in quote marks, but without further explanation it's unclear what those words mean and they shouldn't be stated in Wikipedia's voice. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: What he said was in Hindi. I have provided 4 citations for it, the 4th of which has an embedded video. When translated it means, "the whole country will be on fire if the BJP wins the 2024 Indian parliamentary elections and changes the Constitution". When there are 4 sources, can it not be stated that he (Rahul Gandhi) said so in Wikipedia's voice?-Haani40 (talk) 19:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

If you're quoting someone, then it should be in quote marks rather than Wikipedia's voice, and especially when the meaning is not obvious or the language employs metaphor. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: There are 4 reliable sources, one of which (the 4th) even has an embedded video, so maybe I can type,

According to Rahul Gandhi, he will set the whole of India on fire if the BJP wins the 2024 Indian parliamentary elections and changes the Constitution.

-Haani40 (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

..... or maybe,

Rahul Gandhi has said, "(we) will set the whole of India on fire if the BJP wins the 2024 Indian parliamentary elections and changes the Constitution."

-Haani40 (talk) 20:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

That appears to be a misrepresentation of what he said. None of the sources you've cited suggest that he said "we will set the whole country on fire", as you've quoted him here. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

As explained above, ideas expressed in Wikipedia's voice shouldn't include metaphors. Quote marks are necessary if this is to be included. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Haani40 I suggest read WP:NOTNEWS, WP:LASTING, WP:SENSATIONAL, WP:Weight.

Wikipedia generally avoids predictive news and rhetoric unless a lasting impact is confirmed by secondary source. If things really go bad and any academic book covers saying Rahul Gandhi said and things spiral downwards then some value otherwise it simple election season WP:SENSATIONAL rhetoric Wikipedia unlikely to have immediate space. Bookku (talk) 05:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I suggest you follow more WP:RfC discussions by others on various topics without getting involved in actual discussions that will help, I suppose. Bookku (talk) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

References

Excluding links within templates from a "what links here" page

I've been looking at the pages that link to Depersonalization derealization disorder and realized a majority only link to the article through the mental disorders template. Is there any way to hide pages that only link to the selected article through templates from the article's "what links here" search?

Thank you, Have a nice day! ¿VØ!D? ✨ 20:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

An "insource" search can be used. For example: insource:/\[\[[dD]epersonalization disorder/ finds 38 articles. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate it a bunch. : ) ¿VØ!D? ✨ 22:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@VastV0idInSpace0: See User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js for a way to add a "Source links" option to pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Please, upload this photograph

In the Draft:Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore (soundtrack) article, there is a photograph of the cover of the soundtrack, can someone upload it well ,please?? 201.188.154.22 (talk) 22:27, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

non-free images can't be used in drafts. It will need to wait until the draft is approved. RudolfRed (talk) 00:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP 201.188.154.22. Non-free content can only be used in articles per non-free content use criterion #9; so, you should follow the guidance given in WP:DRAFTS#preparing drafts, and (as pointed out above) only upload the file after the draft has been approved as an article. If you try add the file to the draft, it will be removed either by a WP:BOT or another user and tagged for speedy deletion as orphaned non-free use per speedy deletion criterion F5. If you're worried that the AfC review of the draft will somehow be affected by not having an image in the main infobox, please don't. Whether the draft is going to be accepted entirely depends on whether the album is considered to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Recordings; the presence of or lack of images in the article isn't going to be considered when assessing the album's Wikipedia notability.

Now, if the draft is upgraded to article status and you're still unable to upload the file yourself, you can ask for assistance at Wikipedia:Files for upload. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

This request seems strangely familiar. Hasn't it been made before? 126.254.166.142 (talk) 03:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it has. This is yet again one of many IPs who have unsuccessfully attempted to get this draft moved to the mainspace (resulting in it now being indef semi-protected) and requesting for this iamge to be uploaded. This requests should now be taken as spam. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Formating for an image

I am working on this draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Heights_and_weights_of_US_presidents#Current_president and am trying to put in the picture of Joe Biden standing to demonstrate his height and weight. My questions is: Is there a way to make it so the image does not break through the line separating the sections. If you could help that would be greatly appreciated. Pickup Andropov (talk) 00:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Try Template:Clear after the image, before the next header. -- asilvering (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

hi...

hi...how do you create your own article so where not a lot are taken?...thanks [[user:Penny(Cassopeia)|<span style="font-family:Gothic;color:darkslateblue">Cassopeia</span>]] [[user_talk:Penny(Cassopeia)|<span style="font-family:Sans;color:pink">...talk?...</span>]] (talk) 00:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

why....is my signature like this?...it's supposed to be different...can someone help fix my signature? to where i want it?... [[user:Penny(Cassopeia)|<span style="font-family:Gothic;color:darkslateblue">Cassopeia</span>]] [[user_talk:Penny(Cassopeia)|<span style="font-family:Sans;color:pink">...talk?...</span>]] (talk) 00:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Penny(Cassopeia), welcome to the Teahouse. Select "Treat the above as wiki markup" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

ohh... ok ty [[user:Penny(Cassopeia)|<span style="font-family:Gothic;color:darkslateblue">Cassopeia</span>]] [[user_talk:Penny(Cassopeia)|<span style="font-family:Sans;color:pink">...talk?...</span>]] (talk) 01:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

it's fixed! thanks! Cassopeia ...talk?... 01:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

you can start writing something in your sandbox and send it to be a draft which can then become an actual article. Pickup Andropov (talk) 00:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

ty Cassopeia ...talk?... 01:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Casswiopeia, and welcome to the Teahouse. It sounds as if you are where I was eighteen years ago, desperately wanting to add an article to Wikipedia in order to "make my mark".

Now, I know that creating a new article is not the only way to contribute to Wikipedia (I've only ever created a handful), and, if you try it in your first couple of months, before you've learnt a lot about how Wikipedia works, you are likely to have weeks or months of disappointment and frustration, not to mention wasting your time (and other people's time) on impractical drafts.

I always advise new editors to spend a few months making improvements to existing articles, and gradually learning about crucial policies such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view and notability before even trying to create a new article. Then, when they think they are ready, they can read your first article to find out how to do it. ColinFine (talk) 14:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Can you accept my Adam Rose article?

He was the first ever Price is Right contestant to win 1,000,000 dollars. Thepersonwhowatchespages (talk) 00:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Adam Rose (The Price is Right contestant)

no Pickup Andropov (talk) 01:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

is the article taken? Cassopeia ...talk?... 01:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Thepersonwhowatchespages, please have a look at WP:FIRST for some tips on how to write wikipedia articles. -- asilvering (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Thepersonwhowatchespages, there's already some information about Adam Rose in the article The Price Is Right § Winnings Records, which is a lot more than the one sentence in your draft. If you think there's more to say about that him, then you could always expand that paragraph with more reliable sources. Improving an existing article is nearly always easier than writing a whole new one, and it could even be split off into it's own article later. -- D'n'B-t -- 04:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Need Guidance on Handling a Content Dispute Where Tags Are Treated as Vandalism

Hi, I'm relatively new to editing Wikipedia and recently faced a challenging situation.

While reading a high profile article I encountered a statement which I felt is too strongly worded considering the available evidence. I made a small adjustment explaining my rationale and opened a talk topic regarding the issue. My edit was immediately reverted without addressing the merit of the improvement. I then suggested a clarification which was also immediately rejected with a vandalism accusation. I then added a disputed tag to the aforementioned statement citing the disputed guidelines: "Information that is particularly difficult to verify", "Reference to sources that are outdated or whose reliability has been subsequently questioned." My tag was immediately reverted and I was again accused of vandalism, reported and subsequently called out on my own talk page. The statement indubitably fulfils the required conditions to be considered disputed according to the guidelines; The nature of the dispute makes me think that there might be strong underlying religious biases affecting the editorial responses, though I'm not sure how to address this without exacerbating the situation.

A fellow more experienced editor referred me to this page. Much thanks. Omar Jabarin (talk) 03:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@CleverTitania: Omar Jabarin (talk) 03:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Omar Jabarin Revert business is most times waste of time and energy distance yourself immediately from that. Discuss at talk pages follow WP:DR.

My personal perception is Middle east topics would have lot many experienced Wikipedians from all sides so just note down on talk page and let other experienced users take care. You can productively work in the articles where less users are there gain experience and then later you can always join back. Thats my personal advice.

Bookku (talk) 03:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Is this about Second Temple? There already an extensive discussion about this at WP:RSN in addition to the article's talk page. Please clarify what help you are asking for. RudolfRed (talk) 03:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Omar Jabarin: fixing ping RudolfRed (talk) 03:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Just how to progress in such scenarios. The whole situation seems frozen and seems like it was done in complete contrary to guidelines though I might just unfamiliar with the pace and workflow. Why is it acceptable to remove a totally legitimate dispute tag without the dispute being resolved? Shouldn't it be removed only once the dispute is actually resolved? Why the repeated vandalism accusations and hostile tones towards legitimate edits and clarifications? I'm just trying to draw more experienced editors attention to the issue and current climate for novices since I feel helpless. I guess I'll put the situation on hold for now and check what's up in a few days. Omar Jabarin (talk) 04:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Omar Jabarin To my experience on Wikipedia up til now our long explanations matter less but what matters is concise presentation of applicable reliable sources and links to applicable policy such as I referred link to WP:DR and the other user WP:RSN.

Read previous discussions in archives of the same and related articles study what references have been provided and can you provide any new academic reference to suggest a new position.

It's not you only but we suggest other users too, to gain experience from other topic areas too. Bookku (talk) 13:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@ Talk:Second Temple discussion you can provide a neutral synopsis of the discussions up til now there with applicable reliable sources policies and then request a third opinion at WP:3O there after WP:DRN there after WP:RfC Bookku (talk) 13:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Question about editing.

Hello, I have a question about editing. My inquiry concerns an article being edited and whether adding a page in connection to more extensive subject matter or if creating a new article is required ? TriosLosDios (talk) 05:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk) 06:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

TriosLosDios, please specify the article being edited and the info that might be added. 126.205.252.56 (talk) 06:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't know how I convey your request in search for non addition on right preferences .so I usually turn on my sand box in hiring anytime questions to reveal its basics of journals and writings menage .

hopefully I desire to work on protoplasmic plants to encourage wast studies on longitudinal growing plants or weather oriented grades of polling gene consumer fruit field techios kelp managers for deoxygenated species in non rendering species of monophyletic kingdom.Cephalonia Pooja kumari bhardwaj (talk) 06:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Do you perhaps have a question? 126.205.252.56 (talk) 06:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Looks like vandalistic chatbot (Large language model) gobbledygook to me. Check out the User's Talk page. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I have blocked this editor as not here to build an encyclopedia because they are spouting gibberish and Competence is required. Cullen328 (talk) 19:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Submitted Article - Draft:Andrew Wallas

Hello, would someone please help me? I have been in conversation with Wikipedia editor @DoubleGrazing who has made suggestions to an article I submitted about Andrew Wallas. I have made all the edits @DoubleGrazing suggested and re-submitted the article for approval last month. I logged back in today to find the message below and no update on my submission which has thrown me into a panic as to whether DoubleGrazing is a bonafide editor. Can anyone advise as to what the status is with the Andrew Wallas article as I am new to Wikipedia and finding it difficult to navigate? I would appreciate the benefit of your expertise as I am a bit lost now as to what to do? Thank you very much.

Notice of noticeboard discussion[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Warning to all Wikipedians! The user DoubleGrazing is a grandmaster editor who does not respect the rules of wikipedia and makes false statements. Thank you. Usedtobecool ☎️ 06:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Usedtobecool: thanks (I think). Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry... DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply] Just ignore it, for now (I think). — Usedtobecool ☎️ 06:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Lornadot (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft is submitted and pending, as indicated. 331dot (talk) 09:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I greatly appreciate your update and will edit the page as per all the suggestions for which I am very grateful. Lornadot (talk) 11:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Lornadot There's nothing wrong with @DoubleGrazing, they were brought to ANI by a seemingly disgruntled IP editor without actually citing any offences by them.

This can sometimes happen, where users are brought to ANI by other users for no real reason at all. That seems to be the case here, and the listing no longer exists on ANI, meaning it was likely removed. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 09:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that there's nothing wrong with me, but nothing I'm prepared to publicly own up to at this time. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Really glad to hear that @DoubleGrazing and I will edit the page according to all the suggestions and revert. Thank you again. Lornadot (talk) 11:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

"Only thing in life worse than being talked about", etc. Hey ho. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I am very grateful for your prompt response. Lornadot (talk) 11:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

As for your draft, it still contains far too much promotional puff, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Before it can be accepted you need to remove phrases such as He works with individuals and businesses to fulfil their latent potential and He applied everything he had learnt and experienced to create a business with a spiritual ethos. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I will try and edit as per your suggestions. Lornadot (talk) 11:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

According to this draft, the FT wrote that Wallas said something about the space for reconnecting with your inner wisdom. I hope that this was just a columnist's joke. If not, then since I last looked at it the FT must have plunged into idiocy. 118.18.141.213 (talk) 11:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

New topic

how can i add -? Ronald Granberg (talk) 09:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

How can you add which new topic to what? 126.254.232.113 (talk) 10:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Ronald Granberg, WP:BACKWARDS and WP:YFA may be what you're after. Starting an acceptable WP-article without and WP-experience is difficult. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

If you're asking about how to add a new topic to a talk page, there should be a button up with the view/edit/history buttons. TypoEater (talk) 13:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Plenipotentiary § Translation

Should said section be removed from the article due to being as an advertisement, a dictionary entry, and original research? This was proposed on the talk page in 2013, but there've been only 4 edits to the talk page since then. 2A0D:6FC2:6A90:4D00:0:0:0:5F9 (talk) 10:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

By all means by WP:BOLD and go ahead. If someone restores it, then is the time for further discussion. Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Dealing with Vandalism

Recently I saw a strange post on the Robotics talk page that I think was vandalism. After reading the protocol I decided to delete the post, but I'm still unclear about the process. Should I do anything else about this? SeiBean (talk) 11:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@SeiBean If someone is vandalising Wikipedia, you should revert the edit and apply a warning to the user. You can either do that by placing a warning template on their talk page manually, or by using a tool like Twinkle to apply it semi-automatically.

To clarify, you should, as a general rule, only ever start with a level 1 template for most examples of poor conduct on Wikipedia. It's very rare that you'll have to start with anything higher, as most vandalism is ultimately pretty harmless. Remember not to bite the newcomers. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 11:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Several hours ago, somebody posted something unrelated to the article of which that is the talk page. This edit wasn't vandalism. Then the same person removed it. This edit wasn't vandalism either. Which edit constituted vandalism? 118.18.141.213 (talk) 11:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I checked the page history and then their contributions and couldn't find any actions from SeiBean on the talk page for Robotics. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 11:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

You'll have to forgive me; perhaps they reverted it before I edited it. I am still very new myself, I made my account last week. SeiBean (talk) 12:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I assumed the original post was vandalism, as it seemed 1. totally unrelated and 2. something a troll might say. After I deleted the post under the assumption of vandalism; I am not sure why it lists under the person's name Apologies if that was not the right decision. SeiBean (talk) 11:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Temporal terms

This is not a question, but a suggestion. We editors should avoid temporal terms, such as "The author's most recent (or latest) book is...." Or "The author recently published ..." or "To date he has published ten books." These phrases remain sometimes for years after they are no longer true. We should instead use actual dates, such as, "In 2024, the author published ..." or "As of 2024 he has published ten books." Maurice Magnus (talk) 12:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Maurice Magnus The Manual of Style agrees with you: MOS:TODATE. Bazza 7 (talk) 12:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

How to get an article reviewed quickly

I made an article about a sport event but till date hasn't get reviewed and remains a draft. What can I do to improve that and done it quickly. Regards--KEmel49 ^t@lk13:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. There is no way to guarantee a speedy review; reviews are conducted in no particular order by volunteers. Do you have a particular need for a speedy review? 331dot (talk) 13:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

If you didn't, check the advice in your draft where it says "Improving your odds of a speedy review". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

WRITING A NEW ARTICLE FOR PUBLICATION

I AM A NEW WRITER ON WIKIPEDIA i want help on how to promote individuals and independent personalities to be accorded the rightful place they deserve online. Please put me through. Revbunmi (talk) 14:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Revbunmi Hello and welcome. Wikipedia is not about promoting or honoring individuals. Our only interest here is in summarizing what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability- such as a notable person. I might suggest that you first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to learn more about how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content- as well as use the new user tutorial. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to attempt to perform here, and some experience and knowledge is highly recommended to avoid disappointment and frustration. 331dot (talk) 14:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Revbunmi: (edit conflict) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I am afraid that promoting anything is forbidden here. That being said, please see your first article. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

The reviewer explained why your draft Draft:OLUBUNMI ADELEYE THOMAS was declined. David notMD (talk) 20:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

How do I edit portal pages' "Did You Know" entries?

This Portal:England has an incorrect DYK in rotation: "that the 1952 Farnborough Airshow DH.110 crash is the last time spectators were killed in an accident at a British air show?" (Is unfortunately not true since 2015). I've removed it from here Portal:England/Did_you_know/3, but it's still showing up on the page.

Thanks JeffUK 15:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@JeffUK: you may need to purge the cache of that page. Mjroots (talk) 19:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems to have moved on to another set of DYKs now, I guess next time it finds this one it will be the updated version. JeffUK 15:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Reporting an administrator

Hi. I've never had to do this, so I'm not very good on reporting. There is an administrator who just randomly deleted my page (and looking at his talk pages this has happened more than once) under "copyright infringement", and he didn't even bother to check if the issue was fixed (I had fixed it about half an hour before the page was deleted). It's definitely disruptive, as he doesn't even put in the effort to see if the deletion reason has been fixed. MemeGod ._. (talk) 15:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Nevermind, he did fix it. MemeGod ._. (talk) 15:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@MemeGod27 That's good. In future, simply drop the relevant person a note on their talk page to explain the situation. Hopefully they will check and restore, as appropriate. Also (in future) please avoid directly copy-pasting from sources that you have not written yourself. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Redirect into disambiguation

I recently turned Lummi from a redirect into Lummi Nation into a disambiguation page, given that there were a wide variety of pages about "Lummi" with no easily discernable primary topic (IMO). Would anyone take a quick look and see if I missed anything or did it wrong? I've never done a disambiguation page from scratch so I don't know if I missed any technical aspects or anything. Thanks! PersusjCP (talk) 16:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@PersusjCP: Looks good to me. I have fixed most of the many inbound links; always worth checking when you make that kind of edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Can/Should I make this edit?

I was reading a page that is considered a contentious topic (Gun politics in the United States) and one sentence in particular just struck me as really out of place. It is the opinions of a political scientist and a SCOTUS clerk regarding a certain supreme court decision. Although they are experts, they aren't, in my opinion at least, that noteworthy. I've followed this topic for many years and have never heard their names before. Since there are thousands of political scientists and experts, I feel like that alone does not merit the inclusion of their opinion on the subject page. (Additionally there aren't any balancing opinions, both of these opinions are highly critical and there's no mention of people in favor of it so it's also an issue of WP:BALANCE) Several days ago I added a topic on the talk page mentioning that I think their inclusion should be deleted and laid out my reasons and it has not received any kind of response. Would it be acceptable for me to go ahead and make the edit or should I wait for at least someone to contribute to a consensus beforehand? (The guidelines for contentious topics were not clear to me) Blast335 (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Blast335, don't make the change yet. Your argument than that you haven't heard of these professors and that they are random law experts probably just got ignored. Do a bit of research on this first and then make a proposal just based on balance, perhaps with a balancing source. Both are well-known professors who specialize in this area. The sentence you object to is poorly written. Magarian is a professor of law at Washington University; it has been 30 years since he was a young law clerk. StarryGrandma (talk) 17:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. Perhaps my assertions were a bit strong regarding the significance of the two individuals, however I still would argue that their inclusion, even with a balancing source, adds little to nothing to the article. That there are experts who disagree with the Supreme Court's decision should be apparent by the fact that the decision was not unanimous since the Supreme Court is made up of legal experts. If they are disagreeing with the aspect of the decision that is unanimous then it is unclear.

Since the topic of the page is a summary of US gun politics and not of the Heller decision, would it perhaps be better to add some balancing sources and make a single statement along the lines of "Legal experts specializing in Constitutional law received the decision with mixed feelings" and then cite supporting and dissenting scholars? Given that those scholars, although respected and known in their fields, are not well-known public figures the inclusion of their name doesn't convey anything all that meaningful for the average reader. (Related, if I did go along with that route, would it be appropriate to remove all but one of the sources already cited and add a single balancing source? There are three sources for the existing statement which seems a bit excessive).

Thank you for you advice! Blast335 (talk) 18:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

The place for that discussion is the talk page of the article and you have a reasonable argument to make. Wikipedia is many encyclopedias in one; not all content is expected to be written just for the average reader. (Our science and math articles get quite technical for example.) We don't leave out academic research or detailed history of a topic just because the average reader may not be interested. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

List of medication brand names

I am contributing to an article on Ketotifen, a medication, and listed brand names under which the drug is marketed in section Ketotifen#Brand names. I used source data from [2].

Still, I am not satisfied with how the list looks now at Ketotifen#Brand names - it is a coma-separated list of tens of lines comprising hundreds of names. Is there a better way to present the data in this case? What would you suggest? I saw how brand names are listed for similar articles, but none of them had so many entries, so I couldn't take the same approach.

Please advice how can we present the list at Ketotifen#Brand names to look good. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 16:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

". . . coma-separated . . ."? A Freudian slip, perhaps? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 18:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Maxim Masiutin: You can use {{Flatlist}} to improve the accessibility of such lists, but per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, that list may not be appropriate for the article. Try adding it to the corresponding item on Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I mediated upon your proposals and decided to remove the list of exact brand names and gave their approximate number instead ("more than 200"). I observed that pharmaceutical drugs on wikipedia generally list a dozen or two brands, which is easy to present in any form of list or enumeration. But when there are more than 200, probably not all of them merit mentioning. However, I could not find a reliable source that would have allowed me to select only the most widely used brands. Such information was available for the US only, but I didn't want the article to be US-centric, as pharmaceutical drugs such as ketotifen are used worldwide. Therefore, your advice of thinking about the WP:NOTDIRECTORY rule led me to remove the names and use "more than 200". Thank you! Could you please review Ketotifen#Brand names and let me know if you like it or should I improve it somehow. I will transclude this subsection of the Teahouse to the talk page of the article for visibility. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 05:21, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Help With File

I would like to add a full file length of Lucid Dreams, but due to restrictions, I sadly cannot. Could I have someone do it for me? It would just be placed under the 24 sec file clip of Lucid Dreams.

Thanks! Caden danda (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Caden danda, and welcome to the Teahouse. It is always worth clarifying which article you are talking about. We appear to have articles on three songs or albums called Lucid Dreams - just because you know which one you are talking about, that doesn't mean that other people will.

I'm not sure what you mean by "add a full file length", but I'm guessing that you mean to add the audio of the whole song or album. That will almost certainly be a copyright violation - a short clip of copyright material can be used in an article as long as its use follows the non free content criteria, but it must not be excessive in length.

If that was not what you meant, please clarify. ColinFine (talk) 21:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Note: request clarified and answered in #Some plz add full lucid dreams to Wikipedia page on juice wrld below. --ColinFine (talk) 21:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I am so sorry, I totally forget about copyrights, I apologize. I hope you have a good day! Caden danda (talk) 21:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Some plz add full lucid dreams to Wikipedia page on juice wrld

If someone could add the full length of juice wrld's lucid dreams to Juice Wrld, it would be awesome! Caden danda (talk) 21:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Please see my reply to your previous request, where I explained that the answer is a definite No, as that would be a copyright violation. ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry Again! Caden danda (talk) 21:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Edit to Billy Sinclair

Tried to onsert a change which, admittedly, may pose conflict of interest. The page now has some kind of "error" notice. How to return page to original format prior to attempted edit? Billy Sinclair (talk) 20:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Your two edits to Billy Sinclair have been reverted. (Past actions can be seen at View history.) What you did was to 'break' a reference adding content inside a reference and deleting the symbol that closes the reference. When you tried to fix it, the closing symbol was still missing. David notMD (talk) 20:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Billy Sinclair. Are you the person who is the subject of that article? If you are, please read WP:ABOUTYOU. You certainly have a conflict of interest, and should not normally edit that article directly, but instead should make edit requests for changes you would like to see to it.

If you are not Billy Sinclair, then you must change your username immediately. ColinFine (talk) 21:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Appropriate graphics for penis article

DNFTT

For the Human penis article, do we absolutely need such an unpleasant photo at the top? Do note that a lot of people who use Wikipedia are school kids being taught sex ed. My daughter is only 11 and reasonably disturbed by the pic. I believe the graphic is just too much for a younger demographic who hasn't yet been exposed to nudity of others. I am a full grown man and even I feel like shielding my eyes and it makes me not want to read the article's top most paragraph to avoid looking at that pic. I am not homophobic or someone who is conservative or against nudity online, but it's unsettling to look at such a sad unappealing pic, and wondering if it can be changed to something better? In the article for woman's vagina, it shows a more palatable cartoon which is less an eyesore. Am I able to just use a cartoon instead that shows overall a medical diagram illustration? 49.180.233.23 (talk) 01:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC) Is it also possible to add some kind of function over the graphic photo where it warns people that the picture contains real nudity and they can choose to click and reveal the picture? Instead of just making everyone who opens the article to be forced to be greeted with a super gross looking penis instantly while reading the article. I am not wanting to censor Wikipedia however nobody wants to go on Wikipedia and be catching glimpses of something that can't be unseen. And also I feel angry at Wikipedia for choosing such a picture that is not appropriate for kids and making them feel unsettled to have to look at that. 49.180.233.23 (talk) 01:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC) I would think WP:NOTCENSORED would apply here. We have much worse shown on this site, and it would be hard to find a line between offensive/disturbing and not. Lynch44 (talk) 01:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC) Hi IP and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is not censored, and there are images that might disturb readers. However, you can choose to hide images with user scripts, such as this one. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 01:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC) Yes, it can be changed to something better if there is one. A cartoon or illustration, yes, if there is one, and provides just as much information. The answer to most Wikipedia questions about images is either 1. that's the best available, for lack of many alternatives or by consensus, or 2. that's the one picked by the person that added the image and no one changed it for reason 1 or any other reason (check talk page to see if it was ever discussed before). Images that children shouldn't see are in articles that are exactly about those topics. But on exact topics, Wikipedia has very explicit images. I would suggest that you create an account and log in, which can be done completely anonymously and will keep you logged in for a year. It can prevent, for example, your child making an edit revealing personally identifying information while disclosing their IP (which Wikipedia does automatically), making them trackable. When logged in, you could set your preferences to disable article previews, so that offensive lead images don't show unless you visit that page. You could add the script suggested above. Or you could try any of the other options suggested on the page Help:Options to hide an image. Goes without saying internet is not a safe place. If you can, you should be on top of what your child is looking at on the internet. Assuming that you are, you can rest easy while they browse Wikipedia generally for non-sex/anatomy topics. When you know that they are going to read about sex/anatomy this week or month, what you could do is use your browser settings to hide images by default on Wikipedia. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC) Cultures vary. This is a very subjective topic. Even the statement "internet is not a safe place" could be debated. And I have no idea what homophobia has to do with any of this. HiLo48 (talk) 06:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC) I have really got to say that nobody should be disturbed in the slightest by this illustrative image, which shows the topic quite well. IP editor, please ensure that your daughter never views Human penis size which includes a far more dramatic photomontage. Cullen328 (talk) 06:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC) For the interested, some press-coverage on this issue:[3]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC) IP has a partial block for "trollish harassment. possible block evasion". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Seeking Advice on Revisiting a Redirect Decision for 'Collision at Rainbow Bridge'

I was excited about a new page I created called Collision at Rainbow Bridge. However, another user redirected the page to Rainbow Bridge. I did not know at the time of creating the article that there had been a prior discussion about leaving this topic as a redirect. That discussion took place a couple weeks after the collision and when information was still changing.

Several months have passed since then, and I think that new developments and additional information have stabilized and that the topic is notable enough to warrant its own article. I had put in a lot of time and effort to gather reliable sources and create the page. Could someone please advise on how to initiate a new discussion about this redirect, such as where to do it? Should I open the discussion on the talk page of the redirect, and is there anything special I need to include in the message to ask for input?

I'd also like any thoughts on whether trying to reopen this will succeed and is worth doing.

These are the relevant link:

Link 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collision_at_Rainbow_Bridge&redirect=no

Link 2: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 Rainbow Bridge explosion

CipherSleuth (talk) 02:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

CipherSleuth, as I see it, somebody was driving recklessly at high speed and sadly, the driver and their spouse were killed. That is sad but it happens all the time. The only unusual aspect is that the crash happened close to a border crossing. I fail to see why this incident deserves a freestanding Wikipedia article. Cullen328 (talk) 06:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. In terms of notability, the incident was initially treated as a terrorist attack. The President of the United States, the Governor of New York, and the Prime Minister of Canada were all briefed on the incident. It led to the closure of every major border crossing in the area, the cancellation of flights at Niagara airport and the suspension of Amtrack Service. It also was not a case of reckless driving. The driver likely lost control due to a mechanical failure that prevented him from breaking. There have been recent news articles about recovery of the black box in the car and attempts to subpoena the car maker for records. So, to my mind, the incident is notable and not the case of a simple car accident - three sentences about it in the article on Rainbow bridge does not seem sufficient to me. Hence my question about opening it up for another discussion. CipherSleuth (talk) 14:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Submitting article on artist Bonnie Rychlak for publication

How do I submit this article in my sandbox for publication review: User:Gaw54/sandbox. Gaw54 (talk) 04:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Gaw54 Another editor has since added the appropriate template to do this, so once you're ready - just click where it says Submit your draft for review. ---- D'n'B-t -- 07:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to submit the draft for review. I'm thoroughly confused, as I've been directed in circles no matter how I try to do this. Please advise. Thank you. Gaw54 (talk) 15:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Gaw54. But you should remove all the external links from your text, per WP:EL. You should also remember that a WIkipedia article is a summary of what independent commentators have published about the subject, not a list of what you happen to know about the subject, or what the subject or their associates want people to know. ColinFine (talk) 09:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I'm confused as to what is considered an external link, even after reading the information on the WP:EL link. I would appreciate guidance as to which specific links are considered external. I'm also having difficulty figuring out how to move the draft for review. Thank you for your assistance. Gaw54 (talk) 15:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft is here Draft:Bonnie Rychlak where you can click submit for review. Theroadislong (talk) 15:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Colours of Error Messages

Can black and white error messages such as "Leave site? Changes you made may not be saved. Leave. Cancel" be coloured so that they be more easily seen out of the corner of one's eye.

How can Wikipedia software be advised of this request? ----MountVic127 (talk) 06:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@MountVic127: I assume this message comes up when you try to close a browser tab with the editor open? If that is the case, I'm fairly certain that it would be your browser displaying the message rather than Wikipedia so there's nothing that can be done by us. If it's something different than closing the tab, could you describe how to get this message so that we can see it as well, to figure out where it is coming from? Tollens (talk) 06:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Tollens: Not sure. Need to retrace my steps. ----MountVic127 (talk) 08:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Reporting a user for constant violations of WP:NPA

Wow, I can't believe I'm already back here asking about a report-related message. I (I've stated this a few times lol) am not very experienced with reporting users, and how should I report someone? It's been an ongoing issue that is 100% not going to get fixed without some sort of intervention, and I guess I've just had enough of it. Thanks :) MemeGod ._. (talk) 07:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

MemeGod27, the official channel is WP:ANI but you may not be ready for it if you have to ask. Assuming you're talking about HamiltonthesixXmusic (I have not notified them but may have to if you confirm), it may be best to go talk with them first, on their talk page. {{uw-npa2}} may suit the purpose. If that does not make it better, you can go to ANI. You need WP:DIFFS of specific edits that are incivil in order to make your case. Issues have to be serious, or ongoing and repeated after the last warning to be considered for admin intervention. I checked only the most recent exchange, not the whole history. Without a pattern, that one edit alone won't be considered bad enough for admin intervention. If it's not too complicated a case, you may want to make it on Cullen328's talk page instead. Best, — Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay, will do so. Thanks! MemeGod ._. (talk) 07:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Music - Iraina Mancini article (no source to support a claim)

the part on "Undo The Blue received positive reviews." has no source, theres no credible data online to support this claim. Do i delete this sentence then?Iraina Mancini Space011 (talk) 08:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Space011. Yes, if you have made a reasonable attempt to find a source and failed, then you are fully entitled to remove the claim. Make sure you say something appropriate in the edit summary, so that this won't be mistaken for vandalism. If somebody disagrees, they can discuss that with you on the talk page - see WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 09:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Title of the sequel to Coffee Talk (video game)

I just need to know if it is better for it to be titled Draft:Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus & Butterfly or just draft:Coffee Talk Episode 2 because although the former is the full name, the latter is more concise and still unambiguous. JuniperChill (talk) 11:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @JuniperChill and welcome to the Teahouse. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (video games). '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 11:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@CanonNi how about in normal text because it seems tedious and too much to repeat the full name over and over again. This could be Coffee Talk Episode 2, Episode 2, Hibiscus and Butterfly, etc. I also found that most sources do use the full name so I think that is the case of common name. JuniperChill (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure but I think a short form of the name is fine in normal text, as long as it is clear that the game is being referred to. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 12:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games may have some advice. They've probably run into this situation before.--Tbennert (talk) 02:23, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

How to have the appearance of the site, when logged in with an account, the same as when not logged in?

I have noticed that when I am logged in with my account, the site behavior and appearance is different from when not logged in. How can I set it so that when I do log in, the site remains visually the same as when not logged in? I have reset my preferences, but it's still different. 117.222.43.76 (talk) 11:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I have no idea how old your account is, but is your default skin set to Preferences → Appearance → Skins → Vector (2022)? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't mean Vector. That I have enabled, of course. What I mean is, there are some features that aren't enabled by default. For example, one of the features: when I reset all visual settings to default, the feature of previewing a page by hovering the mouse gets disabled. I can, of course, enable them one by one, but I would like the visuals and features to stay the same when logged in as they are when logged out, without me having to go into preferences.

My account was made in early 2020. 117.222.43.161 (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

If resetting all your settings to default makes it incongruent with what it's like when it's logged out, you're going to have to do a lot of trial-and-error with your preferences. For your specific example it should be under Preferences → Appearance → Reading preferences → Enable page previews. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I do the opposite: I take pains to make sure the site looks different when I'm *not* logged in, including having the 'Publish' button in a different color. I want to make sure I know when I'm not logged in, by mistake. Mathglot (talk) 07:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Change user name or delete account?

Is it possible to change my user name? I got divorced and my user name incorporates my ex. I do not ever sign in because of this. If not possible to chance user name how do I delete the account? I can not seem to find answers for either. Thank You Husbandofles (talk) 11:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Husbandofles You can change your username here. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 12:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your direction. Please excuse my inability to locate that page and complete the very easy process. Husbandofles (talk) 12:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

No worries at all, Wikipedia is a veritable rabbit warren of policies, noticeboards and essays so anyone can be forgiven for missing something. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 12:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Notability

I have noticed many batteries (c.100 personnel) have articles but some battalion-sized units, such as 3 Military Intelligence Battalion and 3 Regiment RMP (c. 500 personnel) simply have redirects to larger articles. Is there a policy on which size units should have separate articles, or is it dependent on the notability of the history of units. PercyPigUK (talk) 12:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, PercyPigUK. I'm not aware of any such policy. In nearly all cases, what governs whether a subject merits its own article is 1) its notability, and 2) whether it is independently notable, or a part of something else that is notable. ColinFine (talk) 14:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

You may want to ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. They probably have a guideline you can use.--Tbennert (talk) 02:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

PercyPigUK} Since this is a volunteer project, much of the time what articles exist are related to what topics volunteer editors feel like working on, and not primarily on what policies exist about creation of such topics. The main bar to creating an article is the policy of WP:Notability, but if your topic passes that bar, you may create the article. See WP:YFA for tips. Mathglot (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

How to change title of article

Hi, one of the pages that was suggested to me in the suggested edits box on my homepage was this one: Gallery Waldinger. The page is a stub, and I started to try to track down a couple of relevant links to add citations. However, in the process, I realised that the gallery is generally referred to — when mentioned online in English — as ‘Waldinger Gallery’ (following the English-language convention of gallery names having the word “gallery” as the second word in the name, not the first). In Croatian, the name is the other way around, as is the convention in most central-European languages: ‘Galerija Waldinger.’

It seems likely that the original stub may have been created by someone who was not a native-English speaker, and so the page was created with the Croatian naming convention, but written in English. I thought that it would make sense to change the title of the page to ‘Waldinger Gallery,’ thus following both the English-language convention and also the name referenced in other places online that could be used as a citation.

However, when I went to edit the page, I realised that the main title of the page is not editable. So, two questions: firstly, is the change that I am proposing reasonable, and if so, secondly, how would I go about making it?

Thanks. SwollenSails (talk) 12:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. I think you are probably right in renaming the article as all the few English references to the gallery refer to it as Waldinger Gallery. I've moved and edited the article for you but for future reference see Wikipedia:Move. I'm unsure if the article would be deemed "notable" however so I will look for some citations. AWN08 (talk) 13:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, this is great, thanks. So, if I get it right, the general way things work is that a page is not actually ‘renamed’ so much as redirected to a new version of that page with an updated title. Thanks again, good to know for future edits. SwollenSails (talk) 15:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Exactly, the same page is given a different name and normally the old name becomes a redirect (except on certain circumstances). Glad I could help. AWN08 (talk) 15:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Help me with editing an update on my Wikipedia page (Richard G Capen Jr)

I am about to turn 90 and have been told by several media friends that my Wikipedia page neds to be updated. After all ONE DAY I will pass .... So, I have two paras I'd like to add. Is there someone who might help me? Many thanks. Dick Capen, San Diego SnapperCreek (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Dick, and welcome to the Teahouse. You need to be cautious about updating Wikipedia's article about you: please read ABOUTYOU for general advice, and in particular, for any specific changes you would like to see, please use the edit request wizard to request the changes, and an uninvolved editor will review them. Please note that all information should be backed up by a published source - your own knowledge or recollection is not sufficient - and preferably by a source wholly unconnected with you. ColinFine (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@SnapperCreek: You may also find our FAQ for article subjects useful. In particular, we'd like a photo of you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Richard G. Capen Jr. Cremastra (talk) 16:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Help with paraphrasing

I want to add some sentences here but need help with paraphrasing. If I add it as it is (which will be a copyvio), it would be, "Further, the duty was levied on every stage of manufacture. The duty was levied on nearly all goods sold even within the village. A minute fraction of the tax collection was spent on roads and bridges and almost nothing on inland navigation."

How best can I paraphrase the sentences above? I have been accused of misrepresenting what my sources say and so, I thought it would be better to ask here.- Haani40 (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

You may write it as follows or you may reframe it yourself with words of your choice "Additionally, a tax was imposed at each stage of production. This tax extended to the majority of goods sold, even those within the local community. However, only a small portion of the tax revenue was allocated towards the development of infrastructure such as roads, bridges, and waterways." Leoneix _(talk) 17:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

OK, thanks a lot.-Haani40 (talk) 17:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

References

Lua error

I keep getting a Lua error everytime I try to put an image, what should I do to fix this error? thanks Cassopeia ...talk?... 17:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

it says this "Lua error in Module:Portal_image_banner at line 39: attempt to index local 'title' (a nil value)." Cassopeia ...talk?... 17:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Penny(Cassopeia): I suggest asking at the village pump technical WP:VPT for problems like this. And please don't use small text RudolfRed (talk) 18:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

ok and sorry Cassopeia ...talk?... 18:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Photos of officeholders

Hi! I understand the general guidelines for uploading photos to Wiki Commons (that they have to be your own uncopyrighted pictures), but what I’m wondering is: what is the procedure for uploading official portraits of officeholders? For example, a senator’s photo for the infobox. I recently published an article about a local sheriff and am wondering if I’m allowed to upload her official portrait. If not, I’m wondering how so many officeholders have their official portraits in their infoboxes. Thanks! Schtamangie (talk) 22:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Schtamangie: Some official portraits are public domain (such as the US Federal Government and some states) and these can be uploaded to commons. Other countries and states have different rules. RudolfRed (talk) 22:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense! Thank you! Schtamangie (talk) 22:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Schtamangie. Being an "official portrait" found on some kind of government website doesn't automatically release a photo from copyright protection; so, it's best to assume the photo is protected copyright from the start and then work from there. If the photo you want to use is not one you took yourself (and if it is, it isn't a photo you've taken of someone else's copyrighted content), then it's copyright has to be owned by someone. So, you're going to need to figure out who that might be and then work from there. Your best bet is to probably ask about this at c:COM:VPC, providing as many details (e.g. link to the source website) as you can about the photo's provenance . With more details, someone might be able to give you a more definitive answer.

In addition, you seem to be misunderstanding some things about Commons and copyright law in general. For reference, Commons does actually host lots of copyrighted content, but the content needs to copy with c:Commons:Licensing. When someone uploads a photo they take to Commons, it doesn't necessarily mean they're waiving or otherwise transferring their copyright ownership to Commons or anyone else; it just means they're making a version of their work available under a type of copyright license that makes it much much easier for others to re-use. They're still the copyright holder of the work and are just only putting in place some basic conditions regarding the re-use of their work. As long as those re-using the work comply with the terms of the license the copyright holder has chosen, they can freely do so; if re-users violate the terms of the license, they are then infringing on the copyright holder's rights. In the latter case, however, it's the copyright holder, not Commons, that needs to seek redress.

Finally, if you want an quick example of the what it means to upload something to Commons, just look at the licensing statement you're agreeing to release your contributions to Wikipedia under every time you click the "Publish changes" button. You're still the copyright holder of the content you add to Wikipedia; you're just agreeing to release it under a license that makes it easier for other to re-use or modify. In other words, you're agreeing in advance to allow others to re-use your work in pretty much anyway they want as long as they comply with the conditions of that license. Commons, for the most part, works the same way when it comes to the files it hosts. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the in-depth reply! That’s really helpful to understand some of the technicalities of copyright license! In my case, based on what @RudolfRed said, I’m pretty sure the image I was looking to use unfortunately cannot be used. So I think I’d have to personally take a photo of her and upload it. Thanks again! Schtamangie (talk) 23:38, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Schtamangie You could always call/visit the Sheriff's office to see if they would be willing to let you photograph them. Many public officials, especially elected officials, don't mind. 331dot (talk) 12:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

How whould you submit an edit request on a talk page that is extra-protected? Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Blackmamba31248. Do you mean Extended confirmed protected? It is highly unusual for an article talk page to have that level of protection. Please provide the title of the article, and perhaps we can provide you with specific advice. Cullen328 (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

It is on the Isreal-Hamas war, where i noticed the map needed to be updated. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 01:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

If the talk page is also protected, you can request an edit at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 01:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Israel–Hamas war, I suppose. 126.205.254.12 (talk) 02:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Blackmamba31248, you won't be able to make an edit request there, as you don't have the experience yet. You can tell us here what edits you believe need to be made. Valereee (talk) 02:23, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, the Map is very outdated and clearly needs to be updated, since Isreal has almost entirely evacuated from Gaza. That’s the only change i think should be made. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 02:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

It looks like there are multiple sections discussing this on that talk. Maps are difficult, it requires people who have the skills to make them, and updates that are needed daily and sometimes hourly are a challenge when a particular subject is changing constantly. Valereee (talk) 02:33, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I understand, but í was generally talking about how the map hasn’t been updated since the war started it seems. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 02:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I've just added a section to the talk asking if the map should simply be deleted. Valereee (talk) 02:37, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

One thing that Wikipedia doesn't aspire to be is a news website. A map can show the situation as it was months earlier. 126.205.254.12 (talk) 04:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia tag

If I want to upload a still frame from a movie made in Australia in 1949 what copyright tag could I look at using? Robbiegibbons (talk) 00:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Robbiegibbons. A still from a 1949 movie is almost certainly copyright restricted and cannot be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Please read WP:NFCI for the very stringent standards for use of non-free images on the English Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 00:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey, @Robbiegibbons. If there's something in that still that is discussed in the article, it's possible you could upload it locally -- that is, here on Wikipedia, rather than on Wikimedia Commons -- under fair use, but there are pretty strict limitations. Can you tell us what it is you want to upload and why it's useful in the article? Valereee (talk) 02:29, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I am not disagreeing, as copyright is far from my expertise (it's such a complicated subject) but if you are not Australian it's worth noting that many things made before 1955 in Australian are public domain. See here. -- NotCharizard ^🗨 04:18, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

As that document notes. Notcharizard, It is best to check the copyright for a pre-1969 film using the detailed resources from the Australian Government, Australian Copyright Council or the Australian Libraries Copyright Committee. I agree that copyright is complicated. That is why highly paid lawyers spend their entire careers studying, analyzing and arguing in court about copyrights laws worldwide. Cullen328 (talk) 05:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Help:Public domain may be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:08, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Publish a draft

There is a draft Draft:TheDisInsider that was created a few minutes ago, is it a good idea to publish it as an article or not?? 201.188.130.53 (talk) 05:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP, you can't move it to mainspace (ie, "publish it as an article") yourself unless you create an account and log in. If you want to put it into the queue for review by an AfC reviewer, you will have to press the blue "submit the draft for review" button on the draft. But I don't think it will be accepted in this state. Please have a look at WP:N for details on what makes a subject eligible for an article. -- asilvering (talk) 06:16, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Submitted and Declined. David notMD (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Format of Wikipedia references

This is a general suggestion for the reference format of all pages. When a reference link (or any link) is clicked on, the current page will redirect to the site of said reference. Readers must click a reference, read it, and return to the main article. Why not change this so that the article will stay open and the reference will open on a separate tab? In current format, the reader cannot easily keep the reference link open while reading said article. Also note that for the page to redirect to and back from the reference is more cumbersome and time-consuming than opening a new tab and then deleting it. 58.239.47.203 (talk) 12:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP user - in most software, if you hold control while clicking on a link, it will open in a new tab. - Arjayay (talk) 12:11, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Or alternatively, right-click on the link, then click 'Open Link in New Tab' on the menu that appears. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 17:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. If you create an account (which is free, and arguably more anonymous than letting Wikipedia display your IP address - at least, if you don't choose to use your real name for your account) then you can go to your User preferences and pick the gadget "Open external links in a new tab or window". ColinFine (talk) 17:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft article not accepted

Hallo. I am trying to create a page of Keravnos triathlon club, a club based in Nicosia Cyprus. It was not accepted because not many refferenses. The think is that, in Cyprus triathlon is not very popular, and the only references is that the club is member of Cyprus Triathlon federation, and the club's web page. the draft link is the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Keravnos_Triathlon_Club Can you help me please? Christoschristou (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Christoschristou, welcome to the Teahouse.

If a topic does not have many independent references then it is unfortunately not 'notable' by our standards at this time, and therefore does not merit a Wikipedia article. The specific notability guidelines for sports clubs are at WP:NSPORT. As a review, I would also agree with this decline.

Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 16:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Essays mentioned by P&G

I understand that sometimes essays are mentioned in policy/ guideline page for more/easy explanation, but do this essays hold any power with regards to their interpretation of what is written in the policy, or at least more importance than other interpretations? For example Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/FAQ is mentioned at WP:NPOV. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 16:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I understand this concern since I also observed many times essays are valued more by (experienced) users than polices. I doubt Teahouse volunteers would be able do much, unless some well experienced and respected user takes up the issue.

My perception is to note down such experiences one by one on respective policy and essay talk pages and leave it to the posterity that some users will club all such instances and raise issue. Bookku (talk) 16:23, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Per my knowledge, some essays do carry much more value than others, like say WP:SO, but what is valued in them is their content. My question is about those essays that are based on interpretation of any policy/ guideline and are considered worth enough to be mentioned in the respective P/G's page. So can that essay's interpretation be enforced with lesser tendency to discuss? ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 17:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, ExclusiveEditor, and welcome to the Teahouse. I think that WP:VPP is a better place to ask and discuss questions of this kind. ColinFine (talk) 17:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Oh, okay thanks. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 18:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)