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== Collateral Damage =/= Bombing == |
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The Places of worship\Church of Saint Porphyrius airstrike section is misleading as it says the IDF bombed the Church of Saint Porphyrius. The IDF said it was targeting a Hamas rocket and mortar launch command post, with the church as accidental collateral damage. Under the current phrasing Wikipedia is saying the IAF deliberately targeted the church, which completely contradicts that actual article on the airstrike. Instead of saying "... the Israeli Air Force bombed the Church of Saint Porphyrius ..." it should probably read "... the Israeli Air Force damaged the Church of Saint Porphyrius ..." as per the article on the subject. |
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== Two Women Shot at Holy Family Parish == |
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The Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem and Pope Francis are quoted blaming Israel, but there's no Israeli point of view or evidence of responsibility. Israel contends they were not responsible - they are not the ones targeting civilians. |
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An elderly music teacher and church organist named Elham Farah was killed a month prior when leaving the Holy Family compound. Allegedly the sniper shot at anyone who tried approaching her to render aid whilst perched on a nearby roof. While the Israelis are blamed yet again, there doesn't seem to be any commentary about it from the Israeli side, or any cold hard facts. Fog of war! :-\ |
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Recent Aid Truck Massacre
Should this warrant inclusion or is it still too soon? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68434443 LegalSmeagolian (talk) 21:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Wait a bit for the dust to settle. Selfstudier (talk) 22:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- EuroMed's got a recent report on it, explicitly stating it and many similar attacks to be war crimes.[1]https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/killing-starving-palestinians-and-targeting-aid-trucks-deliberate-israeli-policy-reinforce-famine-gaza-strip-april-2024 entropyandvodka | talk 01:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is the Flour_massacre, we should follow what it says there. Euromed is OK but is a bit biased, sometimes very biased, would be better if there were additional secondary sources. Selfstudier (talk) 10:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think that it can be added. David A (talk) 13:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Killing of Palestinians seeking aid
The recent killings of Palestinians seeking aid by the IDF should be included in the article. XenSolation (talk) 01:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- See the topic above this "Recent Aid Truck Massacre". IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 02:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Uniformity in section titles
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- What I think should be changed:
I propose to change the following section titles:
1. By Hamas and allied militant groups: Perfidy: Human shields => By Hamas and allied militant groups: Perfidy: Use of human shields
2. By Hamas and allied militant groups: Perfidy: Disguising military units => By Hamas and allied militant groups: Perfidy: Disguise of military units as civilians
3. By Hamas and allied militant groups: Perfidy: Medical facilities => By Hamas and allied militant groups: Perfidy: Use of medical facilities for military purposes
- Why it should be changed: The section title names should be changed (1) to be clearer and (2) to maintain uniform structure with the naming convention of the rest of the sections, e.g.:
1. By the Israeli government: Perfidy by the IDF: Israeli forces disguised as civilians
2. By the Israeli government: Perfidy by the IDF: Use of human shields
spintheer (talk) 00:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
References
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. Shadow311 (talk) 15:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Hamas disguising as civilians
Hello, I noticed the article says Hamas hides as civilians and medical personnel, but there is no citation for it (the citations later in the paragraph appear to only talk about how that would be forbidden by international law). Could someone please find one, or at any rate add a [citation needed]? Thanks, — Alien333 (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Done.Selfstudier (talk) 18:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Sniping Palestinian children
Testimony by Dr. Vanita Gupta here suggests the IDF is sniping Palestinian children. I feel this should be included but I was not sure which section is ideal. JDiala (talk) 09:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Would this be a good section to place it in?
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#Refugee_camps David A (talk) 11:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- So is somebody here willing to add this information to this article? David A (talk) 13:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Collateral Damage =/= Bombing
The Places of worship\Church of Saint Porphyrius airstrike section is misleading as it says the IDF bombed the Church of Saint Porphyrius. The IDF said it was targeting a Hamas rocket and mortar launch command post, with the church as accidental collateral damage. Under the current phrasing Wikipedia is saying the IAF deliberately targeted the church, which completely contradicts that actual article on the airstrike. Instead of saying "... the Israeli Air Force bombed the Church of Saint Porphyrius ..." it should probably read "... the Israeli Air Force damaged the Church of Saint Porphyrius ..." as per the article on the subject.
Two Women Shot at Holy Family Parish
The Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem and Pope Francis are quoted blaming Israel, but there's no Israeli point of view or evidence of responsibility. Israel contends they were not responsible - they are not the ones targeting civilians.
An elderly music teacher and church organist named Elham Farah was killed a month prior when leaving the Holy Family compound. Allegedly the sniper shot at anyone who tried approaching her to render aid whilst perched on a nearby roof. While the Israelis are blamed yet again, there doesn't seem to be any commentary about it from the Israeli side, or any cold hard facts. Fog of war! :-\
203.33.160.4 (talk) 03:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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