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Revision as of 19:29, 12 April 2024

April 12

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 12, 2024.

Twoallbeefpattiesspecialsaucelettucecheesepicklesonionsonasesameseedbun

...this is a ridiculous title. Nothing about "speaking fast" means that we should remove the spaces between every word within this slogan, even if people try to say this all in one breath. Would not make sense to have space-less titles for all fast phrases. As it's not expected for any other title, it would not be expected here, and is an unlikely search term. Views have plummeted since last time and now only seem to be due to the novelty of a 71-character redirect written like so. Was previously deleted at RfD. (Note: It was cited in the past RfD that this is the "first title that comes up when typing 'Twoal'"; this is explainable as it's the only page on Wikipedia that starts with "Twoal", and therefore is the only titlematch after those five characters) Utopes (talk / cont) 18:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Other note: The page has been indef fully protected, and an edit request has been put out for the nom template.) Utopes (talk / cont) 18:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chequia

Czech republic in Asturian (?). WP:RFD#DELETE #8. Викидим (talk) 18:04, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chipre

Cyprus in Spanish. Little affinity between the language and the topic. WP:R#DELETE #8. Викидим (talk) 18:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladés

Spanish for Bangladesh. Since Spain was not involved there, makes little sense. Delete. Викидим (talk) 17:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World Scrabble Championship 2023

No information in the article that was last up-to-date in 2019 (the championship was held). Delete to avoid confusion until the data Викидим (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

جمادى الآخر أو جمادى الثان

Unlikely search term. MSMST1543 (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, looks to be a pretty standard WP:RLANG, with these two variations listed immediately in the lead. Not an unlikely search term, were there other reasons for this nomination? Utopes (talk / cont) 17:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tracfone promo code

No information about promo codes is present at the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. There was a terribly spammy article at this title once, on 26 February 2006, but it was redirected after less than a day, and it doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell if restored. Also, Wikipedia is not supposed to be used for distributing promo codes of any sort. Duckmather (talk) 16:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This was a 2006-era BLAR of what would today probably end up deleted for being basically an advertisement. History is not significant enough for us to keep. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fall Out Boy's fourth full-length album

why does this exist? for one, infinity on high is the fob's third full-length album and I looked at the page views for this redirect and nobody is using it Cherrell410(t · c) 14:38, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, Wikipedia is not a search engine, leave this title to a Google search. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perplexity AI

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was wrong venue. Redirect created. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 17:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the page Perplexity AI should be redirected to the Perplexity.ai. I cannot add the redirection on my own, since the page is protected. Aditya-an11 (talk) 13:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aditya-an11: I just created the redirect, so this discussion can probably be procedurally closed now. Next time you want a redirect to be created, you should ask at WP:AFC/R. Duckmather (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Duckmather, I will keep this in mind next time onwards. I will close this discussion tomorrow. Aditya-an11 (talk) 17:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Frankie Goes To Hollwood

Implausible typo. No pages link to it, therefore it can be deleted. 8086-PC (talk) 12:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as unlikely. Hollywood is easy enough to spell, and would be completely unnecessary to have "Hollwood", "Bollwood", and similar for all other pages that include Hollywood in the title. Notably, Hollwood doesn't exist, and this is the only page that contains "Hollwood" in any capacity in the title (besides Hollwood Victory Caravan). Utopes (talk / cont) 17:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hekt

Not mentioned at the target. External searches don't pull up anything related to this scale, although it appears to be an alternative name for Heqet, says Google. However, it does not appear at Heqet (our page on Wikipedia uses "Heket", but Google's definitely uses "Hekt"). In any case, "Hekt" is short enough to have a surplus of other mentions on Wikipedia as a word, appearing across the board in terms of viability as a redirect. Also sometimes short for "Hektor" and several others. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:58, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:LITTLEORPHAN

While seemingly in reference to the pronunciation of "ANI" as being for "(Little orphan) Annie", I fully thought a shortcut with this name would have been in reference to little orphaned pages on Wikipedia. Anyone familiar enough with the WP culture of "ANI sounds like Annie therefore Little Orphan is a functional redirect", and can solve those literary gymnastics on the dime, would also be familiar enough to use one of the several other more-convenient avenues of reaching this noticeboard. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Format specifiers

Reopening as a separate nomination this time. Again, this shoud be dabified since the name also refers to scanf format strings. Nickps (talk) 18:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cremastra (talk) 19:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Disambig or move?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 04:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Format string

Reopening as a separate nomination this time. Again, this shoud be dabified since the name also refers to scanf format strings. Nickps (talk) 18:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • disamig per nom -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move %d to Format specifiers. Retarget Format string to Format specifiers. Jay 💬 16:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A fleshed out Disambig would make sense, but I don't see a disambig as called for just between printf and scanf. Unix manuals and technical manuals are always referring to Printf Format Strings (which are used by many tools), when the word Format String is used, but it's exceptionally rare to find anything other than C manuals referring to scanf strings. The concept of a Format String is a much broader topic, and there are many other kinds of format strings that could be discussed besides the C stdio library - such as strftime strings, Awk, Python f-strings, .Net Format strings , etc. Scanf is a specialization of printf - these two redirect targets would be referring to the same subject matter and Printf and Scanf should link to each other (or a common topic) anyway, regarding the discussion of Format strings, because Scanf format strings are Printf format strings with some additions, removals, and a change of interpretation. The current Scanf article doesn't really address how Scanf formats are different and unique from Printf strings, For example the %[ or %* syntax for strings such as %80[^\n] are not laid out. That is not really an issue.. I would not expect either of the Printf and Scanf articles on Wikipedia to serve as a technical manual or programming tutorial for these functions. I would think it should suffice to have a discussion on what format strings are for Printf and Scanf in one place, and Link to the official BSD or GNU C library's documentation. I say Printf, because the printf article has the better discussion of Format specifiers, and Scanf's is limited, except where they link to the Printf article --Mysidia (talk) 03:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • @Mysidia: Well, since as you correctly said "format string" is a more general topic than C's printf/scanf and we currently don't cover it anywhere, we should delete per WP:REDYES, no? Then an article that covers all the contexts format strings can appear in should be written at format string. Nickps (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pensiero

I cannot figure it out the purpose of this redirect. Pensiero is the Italian word for thought, and as an Italian I have never heard of it in association with sketching/drawing, nor Wiktionary mentions anything related to sketching/drawing (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pensiero). "Pensiero" is not mentioned in the target page and a search for "drawing" + "pensiero" on Google only gives false positives. Cavarrone 15:46, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak delete. @Cavarrone: "pensiero" + sketch yields results, see this, or this. Primo pensiero seems to mean very rough sketch. I don't know any Italian, nor am I trained in the arts, so I could be mistaken. I would vote keep if this RfD was for primo pensiero. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 20:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for the explaination, side note in Italian primo pensiero means first thought / first idea / early conceptualization, it is not really a synonimous of "sketch" but rather a definition of it and is not specifically related to art or drawing (eg. look at "primo pensiero" search results on it.wikipedia), even if can certainly be used in that context. Cavarrone 21:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Huh! 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 23:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Pensiero (song) exists, so if this closes as delete that should probably be moved to the base title (unless there's some other topic by the same name which needs disambiguation). 59.149.117.119 (talk) 01:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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📵

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

I'm going to mark this for speedy deletion since there were suggestions in the original deletion discussion to redirect it to Etiquette in technology#Cell phone etiquette, which quickly got put down but someone still redirected it here anyways. I'm just gonna make this discussion to see if the discussion still holds up since it happened all the way back in 2015. Okmrman (talk) 00:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment previous discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_August_6#%F0%9F%93%B5 Okmrman (talk) 00:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment At the time of that discussion in August 2015 this was a redirect to Mobile phones and driving safety, the present target was considered but rejected and it closed with a consensus to delete. The present iteration was created in February 2016, but as it has a different target (and things might have changed in 9 years) I've declined a G4 speedy deletion nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 01:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget, disambig or write a broad concept article. There should be a disambig or broad concept article about prohibition/restriction and similar of mobile phone use. In addition to the current target, such is discussed (in various contexts) at Mobile phone jammer, Mobile phones in prisons, Mobile phones on aircraft, Mobile phone use in schools, Mobile phones and driving safety, Radio quiet zone and possibly others. In the absence of such a page, then we should target where the character is mentioned. There are three such pages but No symbol#Unicode and fonts is by far the most helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 01:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete since there are so many different ways to interpret this emoji, the majority of readers are going to be disappointed. Cremastra (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In what ways other than "no mobile phones" can you interpret this? Thryduulf (talk) 08:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Mobile phone#Use. That section has subsections on the prohibition/restriction of mobile phones in various contexts, such as while driving, while walking and in schools. -- Tavix (talk) 22:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Given that the main section, and most of the subsections, are about the opposite of "no mobile phones" I think this would be a very confusing target so I don't support this suggestion. Thryduulf (talk) 08:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That is a good thing; explaining where mobile phones are allowed is good context for establishing where mobile phones are not allowed. -- Tavix (talk) 17:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If I were to use this redirect I would be looking for information about where, why and/or how mobile phone use is prohibited or restricted, not information about where they aren't. I was confused about why you were suggesting a target that was the opposite of what the symbol means, having already read your rationale for suggesting it. Someone who doesn't have that context will likely be even more confused.
    I intend to draft something better (probably a broad concept page, but I'm not certain yet) but it'll likely be Monday or Tuesday before I get time. Thryduulf (talk) 21:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As I originally explained, the section I recommend does have information about where, why and/or how mobile phone use is prohibited or restricted. That section could be better formatted to suit those needs, as well as include other information and links to eg mobile phones in prison or mobile phones on aircraft. If you feel that section is confusing (I have no idea where you get that sense from), that is where I would suggest your efforts be spent. -- Tavix (talk) 23:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The section is not confusing in the context of the article. Arriving at that section when searching 📵 is what is confusing. Rearranging the article to account for one incoming redirect to it would not be an improvement. Thryduulf (talk) 07:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've drafted disambig/broad concept article hybrid at Restrictions on mobile phone use, it needs work but it's a better target than anything else we have. Thryduulf (talk) 19:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So you've taken the relevant concepts from Mobile phone#use and turned it into an outline form. To demonstrate that all it takes is a bit of rearranging and adding of sections to make it "less confusing", I present Mobile phone#Restrictions. A separate page is wholly unnecessary. -- Tavix (talk) 00:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Harrow View

Redirects to an article that does not mention the term. As a residential development, can be notable on its own. WP:RFD#DELETE #10. Викидим (talk) 22:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • TFL has an entry for it so maybe it should be mentioned at the target. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If there were some text about HW on the Harrow page, redirect might have meaning. As-is, it generates confusion. Викидим (talk) 19:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also User talk:Pedroperezhumberto#Deletion discussion about Harrow View. Pinging @Pedroperezhumberto: here. Викидим (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No mention has been added to the target yet. Notified of this discussion at the target talk page.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Alec "Smartalec" Baldwin

Can't find any evidence of this nickname actually being used for Baldwin in this way; he is called "Smart Alec" in some places ([1] [2]) but not to the extent that this redirect would be useful (no one is searching or entering this exact term). Elli (talk | contribs) 02:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New York South

Have no clue why this would apply. Perhaps a wrong redirect they meant to put it to South Bronx. Searching this yields no results Moxy🍁 00:58, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete only thing I could think of this meaning is "New York of the South", but apparently the primary term for that is Atlanta, which is where New York of the South redirects to. Could see a case for retargeting there but given that this isn't a meaningful phrase/search term, more inclined towards deletion. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment/Delete - This redirect was almost certainly created to reference the idea that many people from the northern parts of the eastern seaboard, including and especially New York, like to move to Florida when they retire, making the state culturally more like the north than the south in many areas, or perhaps making the state a weird mottled mix of the two cultures side by side. The redirect isn't saying that Florida is "The New York of the South", it's actually suggesting that Flordia is literally "South New York" (rephrased as "New York South", the grammatical position of South acting kinda like a subtitle, "New York: South"), as in, an extension of New York into the south by means of citizen migration. That said, and knowing this is the reason for the redirect, I suggest we delete it unless the usage of this particular phrasing can be shown to be in broader use, as otherwise it could be misconstrued (as commenters above have done). Fieari (talk) 05:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, barring proof that it's actually used in this manner, this is solidly WP:NEO. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 08:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sultan Abd-al-Rahman I of the Umayyad Sultanate

Unique for Wikipedia. Not seen in the wild. Unlikely to be typed due to complexity.. Delete. Викидим (talk) 00:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

King Karlomann I

This misspelling is in Wikipedia only. Delete to avoid confusion. Викидим (talk) 00:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

King Karlomann

This misspelling is unique to Wikipedia, Google does not know about it. Delete. Викидим (talk) 00:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]