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Reverting sockpuppets

In general, edits by abusive sockpuppets are broadly rolled back, unless there's an obvious reason not to that does not call on specialist knowledge.You are welcome to reinstate their good edits, keeping in mind that those edits then become your responsibility. WP:RBI applies to the edits made by the sockpuppet account, good edits by responsible editors are always welcome. Acroterion (talk) 13:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Arnav Bhate (talk) 13:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pls unlock List of Vande Bharat Services page for other editors

List of Vande Bharat Express services is locked for past 4-5 days and hindering other editors to update the proposed services list and some useful edits in updating the launch order which is done wrong firstly in the 9 and 10th vb which is 10th one as 9th and 9th one as 10th and other services also. Pls kindly inform adminstrators to unlock page and best solution to ban the users involved in wrong activities Omalur Sharma (talk) 03:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an administrator. Please contact them directly. Arnav Bhate (talk) 07:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

spice jet a340 cargo

he (jetstreamer) removed because no source I added source and a 340 pls don’t remove Wafer999 (talk) 21:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simpleflying is not a WP:RS. See WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING. Arnav Bhate (talk) 04:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of Vande Bharat Express services for deletion

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BhandupAamche (talk) 13:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong input of Air India's A350-900s

Hi @Arnav_Bhate, the data you put for A350-900s is wrong. Only 2 have been delivered to Air India. I don't think you can include it in the fleet if they are not delivered. Source: https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Air-India

even here you can see that they only put 2 A350-900s in "In Service" column and 4 A350-900s are in 'future' column. I hope that everything is clarified now, and that my edit was correct only. Please stop editing it wrong. Kokofruitkt (talk) 11:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airbus is more reliable than planespotters. If Airbus says they delivered 6 A350s then we say Air India got 6 A350s. The Airbus source is already in the article. Please see it. Arnav Bhate (talk) 15:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh yes, they are delivered yet have not started operations. For them, if they have painted the livery and tests are done, then they consider it as delivered. By that logic, there are many Air India's a320 neos, that are already in Toulousse, waiting for delivery. Should include them in the fleet too, according to your logic. Kokofruitkt (talk) 02:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And btw you can clearly see that the column where you are editing wrong, clearly says "in service". How is a plane in 'in service' if it's in Toulousse? The column doesn't say "total planes". Kokofruitkt (talk) 04:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Provide a source for that. As you can see here, Airbus says AI is operating all 6 A350s that they have delivered. Arnav Bhate (talk) 06:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Show me their flight history from flight radar, if they are operating them. You should prove, since you are the one changing it. Bet you don't even know their registrations, so here they are :VT-JRE, VT-JRF, VT-JRH, VT-JRI. Show me their flight history. And like I said, you should also add the A320 neos which are not even delivered, according to your logic. Kokofruitkt (talk) 13:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do know their registrations. Also, where does the Airbus source say Air India is operating more than 41 A320neos? The latest report, in January says 38 and since then 3 more have been delivered. I have provided a source that says Air India is operating them, it is up to you to provide one that says Air India isn't. Also, we have included aircraft that planespotters says are parked in the in service tally. Arnav Bhate (talk) 03:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You know what, keep editing it wrong, no one even trusts wikipedia lol, cuz it is an open source website, edited by people like you. Kokofruitkt (talk) 02:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I only want a source that says Air India doesn't have them that would be more reliable than Airbus, while also being up-to-date, so I can put it in the article. Probably the only source that meets this is Air India itself. Arnav Bhate (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You just want source, even if it says wrong. Airbus clearly has weong data, or I think they consider a plane delivered, once they are done with tests. But Air India hasn't taken the delivery of 4 aircrafts. Till now only VT-JRA and VT-JRB are delivered. You can even check Air India's twitter, their last post about A350, was their 2nd A350 which is A350. And yes they do tweet about all the new A350 deliveries. So if they all the 6 were delivered, then they would have tweeted about it. But till now only 2 A350s are delivered according to their twitter.

x.com/airindia/status/1753780106651443299?s=20 Kokofruitkt (talk) 08:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see another user has added a source. That source seems fine so I will let it be. Arnav Bhate (talk) 07:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting in IR electrification tables

You undid my edit of the Indian Railways electrification stat tables in Central Organisation for Railway Electrification claiming that it "Does not do anything". What it does is exclude the summary line from sorting. Without it, if you click on any of the column headers to sort according to that column, the sum will also be considered, which produces odd results if you click the first column (State resp. Zone in alphabetic order) or the last column (where the percentage for the total is the weighed mean of the states/zones and thus will be somewhere in the middle). Even for the other two columns, it's still weird to have the sum on top when you set the table in descending order.

So I reverted your revert, but I posted a more detailed explanation here. Rontombontom (talk) 13:07, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=Stop icon]] Your recent editing history at [[:Air India]] shows that you are currently engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]]; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to work toward making a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about [[WP:EPTALK|how this is done]]. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]].
-'''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[Help:Reverting|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period.  Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert.  Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;'''even if you do not violate the three-revert rule'''&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.{{Break}}''Per [[WP:BRD]], you need to provide a proper source for what you claim and also discuss, but you seem to choose to blindly revert. See [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/air-india-express-set-to-induct-50-new-boeing-737-max-planes-in-next-15-months/articleshow/104396333.cms here]. Consider this your last warning.''<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:LeoFrank|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>&nbsp;LeoFrank&nbsp;</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:LeoFrank|<span style="color:#006400">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></span> 07:01, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
-:Your source supports my point. Only 50 are for IX. The article does not talk about the remaining 50. So it is you who have to provide a source. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 05:43, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-::My source supports ''my point'' that the MAXs are meant only for Air India Express and not the full service Air India, yet you don't seem to support the your invalid point with a source! Still [[WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT|ignoring]] facts and blindly reverting! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:LeoFrank|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>&nbsp;LeoFrank&nbsp;</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:LeoFrank|<span style="color:#006400">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></span> 08:33, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-:::My edit has been to remove the entry of the MAXs from the fleet table altogether, and you keep reinstating but your arguments are totally contrary to your reverts! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:LeoFrank|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>&nbsp;LeoFrank&nbsp;</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:LeoFrank|<span style="color:#006400">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></span> 08:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::The source says "Over the next 15 months, a total of 50 new B737 MAX aircraft will join the LCC fleet, allowing us to grow our network to new destinations and increase flights on existing routes,". If the remaining 140 were also for IX, wouldn't they be mentioned as well? [https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2023-02-14-Air-India-Selects-Up-to-290-Boeing-Jets-to-Serve-Its-Strategy-for-Sustainable-Growth This] says AI ordered 190 737s, [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/air-india-express-set-to-induct-50-new-boeing-737-max-planes-in-next-15-months/articleshow/104396333.cms this] says IX will get 50. It does not talk about the remaining 140. You are doing [[WP:SYNTHESIS]] by saying that the remaining 140 are also for IX. I am not going to revert right now. Let's come to a consensus before any further edits. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 13:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::Also, I returned the article to its original state before the edit war. It was not me, but you who made the bold edit. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 13:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::<blockquote>you are still stubborn on restoring it despite you not proving that AI as an airline has ordered the MAX</blockquote>
-::::The Boeing source, already in the article, says that Air India ordered them, not Air India Express. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 13:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-:::::No, you are wrong! the 737 MAXs were ordered from the AI group as a whole. Show a source that says AI mainline will use the 737 MAX! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:LeoFrank|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>&nbsp;LeoFrank&nbsp;</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:LeoFrank|<span style="color:#006400">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></span> 16:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::::There is no source that the 140 MAXs are for AI just like there is none that they are for IX if you want to interpret it that way. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 10:52, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
-:::Nowhere does the source say all MAXs are for IX. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 13:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::The [https://www.boeing.com/commercial/ Boeing order/delivery data] mentioned 3 MAXs have been delivered to AI, whereas it was delivered to IX and they are already operational as well. So, let's stick to IX orders of the MAXs, which is 50. With UK also having the 320 NEO family, it is unlikely the mainline will operate the MAX as well. When there is no clarity, why do you even want to add something to an article? <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:LeoFrank|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>&nbsp;LeoFrank&nbsp;</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:LeoFrank|<span style="color:#006400">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></span> 16:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
-:::::There is no clarity. I agree on that. I think, then that the order for 140 should remain on the AI fleet page until we know that they are for IX. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 10:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::::We can add a note that says that these may be for IX. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 10:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
-:::{{ping|LeoFrank|p=}} if you don't respond in a long time, I will add the MAXs back. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 13:29, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
-::::[[WP:THREAT]]? Just look at the shear arrogance in the above message. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:LeoFrank|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>&nbsp;LeoFrank&nbsp;</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:LeoFrank|<span style="color:#006400">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></span> 16:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
-:::::Not a threat. Sorry if it came off that way. I just wanted to say that I want a resolution. Just so you know, [[WP:THREAT]] is about legal threats and I can't see anyone could interpret my reply as one. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 10:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
-:I have found a source that all 190 MAXs are for IX. I guess we can close this discussion. [[User:Arnav Bhate|Arnav Bhate]] ([[User talk:Arnav Bhate#top|talk]]) 10:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 == Reverting sockpuppets ==