Server Build Competition: New Spawn!

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  1. JamieSinn

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    For the point of sanity, I've changed the size again to 143x143. This allows us to forget about issues with orientation, as we can just rotate it.
    This should also be better as it will have a single midpoint.
     
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    Ohmygosh thank you so much that will help a ton
     
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    @JamieSinn how soon can we have that schematic?
     
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    I would like to point out that the design I just spent two entire nights starting will now have to be redone from scratch, because it centered around four blocks around a single coordinate as the center, and everything flowed outward from that. A spawn build has to be symmetrical on two axes. A design that is symmetrical on two axes has a single center point. What that center point is, has now changed twice in 48 hours.

    This competition is impossible until the design criteria stop changing.

    In addition, based on the work I had put in so far on the design I will now be discarding, I'm of the opinion that this build cannot be done at the requisite level of quality by a solo builder in six weeks. I'm skeptical that it can even be done within that time limit by a team.
     
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  6. JamieSinn

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    To accommodate this, I'll edit it to allow either 143x144 or 143x143. I understand that it's hard having it change, but we need to be sure of what the end goal will be.
     
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    You won't be getting a schematic. It'll be hosted in a server of mine. Earliest is Saturday night
     
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    Got it, thanks
     
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    I agree
     
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    I am interested in participating alone.
     
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    I don't see this answered in the thread, Is it essential to have have the holograms set up or would this not matter?
     
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    My OCD doppelganger started taking measurements and realized, with much horror, that the four main paths to the spawntowns are not centered with the frame path around spawn (the thighter one that goes through statues) :eek: namely:
    • the North-South main (large, central) path is
      • 74 blocks apart from the West (N-S) frame corridor
      • 73 blocks apart from the East (N-S) frame corridor
    • the West-East main (large, central) path is
      • 72 blocks apart from the North (W-E) frame corridor
      • 76 blocks apart from the South (W-E) frame corridor
    I understand that the main paths' position outside spawn can't be messed with too much, due to region alignments and such; on the other hand, the purpose of this contest is to end up with something better than what was done before, and it'd be pretty easy for staff to join up (within the few yards outside spawn) the two segments of the main paths, as they'd be misaligned by only 2 blocks.

    So, here is my question. Should we:
    1. Dismiss these differences and make a spawn as symmetrical/good as possible, ant then staff will find a way to realign those 2 blocks?
    2. Build something that is already aligned with the current, misaligned -ugh- main paths?

    Sorry for the long post, here is a potato
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  13. ClarinetPhoenix

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    Those who have stated they are participating. Also those who have told me in private they are attempting but haven't posted!
    @jmichael214
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    @DiamondDesire
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    In light of Expips question.
    I took a real good look at spawn. The bad news is we cannot move the paths because of the spawn towns, they are completed and set, it would fuck over those towns to move the paths.
    The semi-good news is I took the time today to measure spawn. This should of been done from the start. I apologize for not doing that. We stupidly assumed spawn was center, which it is not. It is grossly off center and I do not know why. Partly its an even spawn build and is built on an odd set region, also the statue regions are also set slightly uneven, which does help off-center things even more. -May-look into adjusting those if possible.

    Anyway.....
    I recorded my measurements with the compass orientation on this picture here, so all builders may know the measurements you have to work with and what measurement is where.
    The paths have to be lined up unfortunately. But I hope these measurements will help. ._.
    The blue measure is the space dimensions we have to work with. I'm going to say we can accept up to 143x144 block design, but as Jamie said for possible sanity, we can accept any measurement that is slightly smaller that makes a quality build.
    The orange measures is the block distance between each path side and corner of the 144x143 area. When I realized the paths were off center I realized that this distance is important to make sure spawn fits.
    In light of having to re-measure spawn and let you guys know I'm extending the competition 2 weeks. We will also consider adding some runner-up prizes, there seems to be a decent turn-out attempt so far :p
    I want to thank you all for being patient and still attempting despite the confusion, and I feel horrible about this oversight. T_T

    We'll be doing the holograms, we just require a space to use them.
     
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    I'll submit a build, probably in my realism themes! :)
     
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    This clears it up a lot, so just to clarify the part inside the blue outline is what we are building, meaning the wall near the statues with the flags is remaining the same aswell as the statues positions/look is also looking the same or is this part of the competition also? But if this remains the same, is it possible to get the winner to make an additional new design for this wall so that it matches the new spawn design, if they wish to do so of course? @ClarinetPhoenix
     
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  17. ClarinetPhoenix

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    We're not considering making changes to the outer wall at this time. I was told by Jamie that the towers are part ecc history and I rather like to think the flags are representative of ecc diversity.
    One step at a time, your concern for this contest is the 143x144 area. :)
     
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    I love the wall and the flags, but can the flags be put on the outside of the wall too, it looks really ugly from town side. :p
     
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    In order to have a track where to build in, I made a template for the area around spawn, taking into consideration @ClarinetPhoenix's measurements and mine, easily downloadable by everyone.
    As it took a while to make it, and it'd be an advantage to use it and save time, I was considering selling it. However I soon realized the exchange would happen outside the server, therefore it'd be non enforceable and thus against rules.
    So I decided: hell to competition, let's just make it public because masochism!
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    Disclaimer: while I did this for my own benefit and therefore I expect it to be accurate and useful, I do not guarantee either. Use it as your guideline, assuming that it is correct, at your own risk.
    You are not legally required to give me anything and probably nobody except you will ever know that you used it. However, if you appreciate it, you might take into consideration the idea of purchasing a few of my magical sticks just anything in /warp station46 ;)
    • download the file
    • place it in config/worldedit/schematics/
    • open a new flat world in creative*
    • goto 0 64 0
    • do //schem load ECC-Spawn-Template-Expipiplusone
    • do //paste
    • enjoy!
    I selected only an area from 59 to 99 along Y because otherwise it would have taken ages to paste it: therefore, when you create the new flat world *before loading the schematic, you need to select the correct number of layers (otherwise the land will be empty underground).
    • black stained glass = statues volume
    • redstone block = X,Z=0,0 point
    • purple stair blocks = the center of the 143x144 buildable area (Jamie said the coord should be floored, so you'll probably want to stand on the north one)
    • the empty area within the glass frame is the 143x144 area you should stay in.
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/g2k96aaais66t73/ECC-Spawn-Template-Expipiplusone.schematic
    NOTE: this is NOT intended as my submission to the contest, of course
     
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    If anyone would like to participate but can not do the world edit schematics, let me know. I will generate a schematics file from a world save if anyone wants.

    I would also like to participate.
     
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